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Seanad Adjournment Debate – 8 May, 2013- To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality to state how many properties which are currently being managed by Nama, are being used as Accommodation Centres for Asylum Seekers under the Direct Provision system, and to itemise those properties

Seanad Adjournment Debate – 8 May, 2013

Fiafr ú don Aire Dlí, Cosanta & Comhionannas cé mhéad sealúchas at á dhá

bhainistiú ag Nama faoi láthair, a bhíonn in úsáid mar ionad lóistín do

Theifigh faoin gcóras Chóireáil Dhíreach, agus na sealúchais sin a

liostáil.

To ask the Minister for Justice, Defence and Equality to state how many

properties which are currently being managed by Nama, are being used as

Accommodation Centres for Asylum Seekers under the Direct Provision system,

and to itemise those properties.

- Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh

Reply

The question being posed by the Senator in this adjournment motion is based

on a misapprehension as to the nature of the contractual relationship

between the Reception and Integration Agency (RIA) of the Department of

Justice and Equality and those centres providing full board accommodation

to asylum seekers.

By way of background, I should firstly explain that RIA is responsible for

the accommodation of asylum seekers in accordance with the Government

policy of direct provision and dispersal. As of today, there are 4,707

persons being accommodated in 34 centres across the State. Details of these

centres and the numbers being accommodated can be found on the RIA website

at www.ria.gov.ie. Of these centres, 7 are State owned. That is to say,

while the centres are managed by private contractors under contract to RIA,

the land and buildings are owned by the State. The remaining 27 centres are

commercially owned and operated.

In relation to any commercially owned asylum accommodation centre 'being

managed' by the National Asset Management Agency (NAMA), this is not

relevant to RIA. In fulfilling its general accommodation responsibilities,

RIA does not own, lease or rent premises from commercial contractors.

Rather, it 'contracts-in' a comprehensive range of services and facilities,

which include accommodation, housekeeping etc., for a fixed sum over the

period of the contract. It is a condition of the contract with RIA that the

contractor has good title to the centre but this does not specify either

owning, or renting or leasing the building concerned. The finance

mechanism, loans or otherwise, used by the contractor for the provision of

the service to RIA is a matter solely for the contractor.

In relation to the general issue of whether NAMA can divulge details of

property that it may hold as security or where an enforcement action has

been taken by NAMA on that property, these issues are addressed on its

website - www.nama.ie – which I commend to the Senator.