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Speech by Dinny McGinley Minister of State with special responsibility for Gaeltacht Affairs during Seanad Éireann Private Members’ Motion on Wednesday, 27 February 2013

Cathaoirleach,

I move the following amendment to the motion:-

To delete all words after "Seanad Éireann" and substitute the following:-

"Has confidence in the Minister for Justice, Equality and Defence, Alan

Shatter T.D., and commends him for the effective manner in which he is

discharging his Ministerial functions.".

Introduction

Cathaoirleach,

Unfortunately Minister Shatter is unavailable and I welcome the opportunity

to come before this House today to defend his record, and that of the

Government, against this misguided and nonsensical motion. The motion is

quite clearly a piece of political opportunism of the worst sort.

At the outset I should say that I am disappointed by the fact that the

Fianna Fáil Senators have tabled this motion. In the first place, the

motion is to a very large extent a re-run of a very recent and similar

attempt to attack the way in which the Minister and the Government are

handling difficult and complex issues within his Ministerial brief. As

that attempt, in the form of another proposed motion, was overwhelmingly

rejected by this House two weeks ago, I do not see what real purpose can be

served by seeking to cover pretty much the same ground so soon again.

Quite frankly the Fianna Fáil Senators could have found a more meaningful

and appropriate use for their Private Members’ time, but that is the

decision they have made.

Just as importantly, there is no substance to the issues that have been

raised in the motion and what the Fianna Fáil Senators have sought to do is

merely to string together a set of topics on which they hope to garner some

publicity. Such an approach is ill-advised and it is designed simply to

undermine the excellent work being undertaken by the Government in the

relevant areas. Also, but not surprisingly, the motion does not take

account of the reality of the very difficult economic conditions facing the

country. In that context it is easy to understand why the Senators who

have tabled the motion would wish to ignore our current and extremely harsh

financial situation, especially when it is due in large measure to failures

on the part of the last Fianna Fáil-led government.

As the bulk of the specific matters referred to in the Private Members’

motion relate to Minister Shatter’s functions as Minister for Justice and

Equality, I will deal with them first. I will then address the relevant

issues falling within his remit as Minister for Defence.

Garda finance and resources

Members of the House, the legacy Fianna Fáil were happy to bequeath to the

Minister for Justice, a series of expenditure ceilings for the Justice

sector which, if applied, they would have resulted in devastating cuts in

Garda services which he, as Minister for Justice, would not and could not

stand over.

The Fianna Fáil National Recovery Plan was unacceptable and would certainly

have put the Garda Commissioner in an impossible position. Fortunately, the

Minister was able to secure additional funding over the three year period,

2012-2014, to ensure that the Garda Commissioner and indeed An Garda

Síochána could continue to deliver an effective policing service.

In summary, for the Justice Sector in 2012, Minister Shatter secured €2.243

billion which was an additional €118 million over and above the Fianna Fáil

allocation of €2.125 billion. For 2013 he secured funding of €2.2 billion

which was €191 million over and above the Fianna Fáil allocation of €2.009

billion, and for 2014, he secured funding of €2.065 billion which was €105

million over and above the original Fianna Fáil allocation of €1.96

billion. With the Fianna Fail National Recovery Plan the Garda

Commissioner and An Garda Síochána would have stood with an average of €90

million less each year for 2012, 2013, and 2014.

The Minister also made additional funding available last year and in 2013

for the purchase of transport for the Garda fleet for which no provision of

any nature was made in 2009. In that context, 213 new Garda vehicles were

purchased in 2012 and the dedicated funding of €5 million in 2013 will

allow for the purchase of a significant number of new vehicles this year.

With regard to Garda recruitment, the position is that recruitment to An

Garda Síochána was ended by Minister Shatter’s predecessor Dermot Ahern.

The most recent recruits to enter Templemore did so in 2009 and the last

substantial number of recruits graduated in June 2011. The last government

planned to reduce Garda numbers to 13,000 by 31st December 2014. The

Minister is reviewing the position regarding Garda numbers in the light of

an estimated reduction to just over 13,000 by the end of 2013, and, in this

context, he will be bringing proposals to Cabinet in the coming weeks. He

does not want the Garda numbers to fall below 13,000

I must also mention the discussions which have concluded recently on a

revision to the Croke Park Agreement. Everyone who is involved in this

process has recognised the perilous state in which Fianna Fáil have left

our finances. It is only through the combined efforts of all parties who

engaged in these discussions that we will begin to restore our fiscal

sovereignty.

Minister Shatter did not choose the appalling financial position in which

he have had to operate as Minister for Justice. However he has done

everything possible to maintain the resources available to An Garda

Síochána at the highest possible level. There is a budget of over €1.4

billion available for the Force in 2013 and, by any standards, this is a

substantial amount.

Minister Shatter is pleased that the provision of three new Garda

Divisional Headquarters for Kevin Street in Dublin, Galway and Wexford was

included in the special Government stimulus package announced last July.

Garda station closures

At this stage I will address the question of the closure of some Garda

stations which is referred to in the Fianna Fáil motion.

39 Garda Stations were closed in 2012. 8 of these had not been opened for a

number of years and many only for a short period during each day. Indeed

the same party which is now proposing a motion of no confidence in me for

agreeing to formally close these stations presided over their continued

existence on paper only in another attempt to fool the people. The closure

of these stations simply recognised reality, a reality concealed by my

immediate predecessors. Following a comprehensive assessment by the Garda

Commissioner of the Garda Station network, a further 100 were listed for

closure in the Commissioner’s Policing Plan for 2013. 95 of these stations

closed on 31st January 2013 and the remainder will close in the coming

months.

The Garda station network was inherited from the Royal Irish Constabulary

network in 1922 on the foundation of the State. Such a large-scale static

deployment of resources is no longer appropriate in the present day, where

the transport and communications infrastructure has been transformed beyond

recognition. The Garda Síochána have a class-leading police computer

system, a state-of-the-art digital radio system, and a transport fleet

which is currently receiving significant investment.

Of the 100 stations on the list for closure, 98% opened part-time, 94%

opened for 3 hours a day or less, 88% were manned by 1 Garda and only 5%

manned by 3 or more Garda personnel.

By way of comparison, there are 83 police stations in Northern Ireland for

its population of 1.4 million and 340 stations in Scotland for its

population of 5.2 million. In the London Metropolitan area, 66 police

stations are due to close, leaving 73 police stations open to the public.

These figures speak for themselves.

It is the Garda Commissioner’s professional opinion, following a

comprehensive national assessment carried out over a period of 12 months,

that a country the size of Ireland, with a population of 4.5 million, does

not, in the 21st Century, need 700 Garda stations. It is nothing less than

scaremongering to suggest that reducing that network to 564 Garda stations

is a cause for fear and anxiety. It would be entirely wrong for the

Minister for Justice, to second guess the Commissioner’s judgement and

expertise in this matter.

It is unfortunate and regrettable that some public representatives,

particularly in the ranks of Fianna Fáil, have been fuelling public fear

regarding the impact of the closure of Garda stations. In fact, Minister

Shatter has been advised by the Garda Commissioner that Garda station

closures in 2013 will result in an extra 61,000 Garda patrol hours. Are the

detractors seriously telling the public that it is preferable to have

Gardaí sitting behind desks in stations rather than being on patrol?

Some have sought to paint the Garda station consolidation process as an

attack on rural Ireland. However, the 2 largest stations listed for

closure in 2013 are Stepaside in Minister Shatter’s own constituency of

Dublin South and Kill O’ the Grange in the Tánaiste’s constituency of Dun

Laoghaire. In 2012 the 3 largest Garda Stations to be closed were

Harcourt Terrace, Whitehall and Dalkey, all of which were also in Dublin.

Garda Stations come under the control of the Office of Public Works and

Minister Brian Hayes has confirmed that, if an appropriate community

management structure is put in place, the closed stations can be utilised

for local community purposes.

Commissioner Callinan has stated that the revised structures will continue

to support the Garda community philosophy through the clustering of

services at policing hubs. This centralisation of services will facilitate

the introduction of enhanced patrolling arrangements which, in turn, will

provide increased Garda visibility as well as maintaining existing Garda

links with communities throughout the country.

In addition, An Garda Síochána has recently acquired a number of vehicles

which are being converted into mobile Garda offices and it is planned that

they will be assigned to areas where Garda stations have been closed to

ensure that members of the public can continue to conduct their business

and interact with members of An Garda Síochána.

All Gardaí have a part to play in community policing and currently there

are more than 1,000 Gardaí dedicated to community policing countrywide.

Gardaí continue to work closely with all communities to enhance community

safety through a wide range of local fora such as Community Alert and

Neighbourhood Watch.

Minister Shatter’s Department , along with the HSE has, for many years,

supported the work of the Community Alert Programme, which was set up in

1985 by Muintir na Tíre in association with the Garda authorities. The

programme has 1,300 local groups. The close involvement of Gardaí with the

Community Alert Programme was further underlined in January this year by

the signing of an updated Memorandum of Understanding between An Garda

Síochána and Muíntir na Tíre who administer the programme. Furthermore, a

new Garda Community Crime Prevention Programmes booklet has been published

to support the establishment and operation of Community Alert,

Neighbourhood Watch and similar local crime prevention initiatives.

 

Delivery of Garda Services

An Garda Síochána has risen to the challenges that it faces in the current

economic climate. Change is being delivered in cooperation with the members

and staff in the Garda Síochána.

Without doubt, the single biggest transformation project in the Garda

Síochána, and arguably in the public service, has been the development and

implementation in 2012 of a new roster system in the Force. Not only does

the new roster provide a more effective policing service, it also protects

the health and welfare of the members of the Garda Síochána. The new Garda

roster system ensures that resources are optimally deployed when and where

they are required, to every part of the community, both rural and urban.

Evidence of the new roster is immediately apparent on our streets as more

Gardaí are on duty at times of peak demand and fewer during quieter

periods. This is essentially what this reform is about – doing things

differently but doing them more effectively.

Crime

In response to allegations about increased crime levels across the country

- the most recent available crime statistics, published by the Central

Statistics Office, for the 12 months ending on 30th September 2012, show

reductions in 12 of the 14 crime groups. There have been reductions in the

numbers of crimes against the person including homicide offences, sexual

offences and assault and related offences. Public order and damage to

property offences are also down as are drug offences and weapons and

explosives offences – details of all these reductions have already been

reported to the House. Burglaries, however, increased by 7.9% during the

period.

Operation Fiacla was set up by the Garda Commissioner and is particularly

focused on identifying and targeting mobile gangs involved in burglaries

around the country. and is extremely effective. In the period to the end

of January 2013 it resulted in 3,903 persons being arrested and 2,142

persons being charged. In addition, the latest quarterly figures for

burglary suggest that Operation Fiacla is having an impact, when compared

with the quarterly figures prior to its introduction. These figures, taken

together with the robust response of the Gardaí in tackling gangland crime

and the activities of paramilitary organisations, are clear evidence that,

while the Gardaí cannot avoid the economic realities, they have been more

than able to continue to respond effectively to crime. Indeed the most

recent crime figures show that the number of aggravated burglaries is down

when compared with the previous 12 months.

 

Gangland violence

Everybody shares the widespread outrage at gang related criminal activity.

The Minister is in on-going contact with the Garda Commissioner about all

aspects of serious crime and the Gardaí will continue to bear down heavily

on the activities of those involved in gangland crime. The only effective

way to combat organised crime is by disrupting and prosecuting those

involved in its operations, and especially the drugs trade which is at the

heart of much of its profits.

We shouldn’t underestimate the difficulties the Gardaí face in trying to

prevent gangland killings and related crimes and in bringing the

perpetrators to justice. These crimes are carefully planned and are

carried out by people who are very familiar with criminal and forensic

investigation techniques. Moreover, despite the clear risk to themselves,

members of gangs will not generally cooperate with Garda investigations.

Despite these difficulties the Gardaí have been able to bring people before

the courts, particularly in relation to a number of high profile killings

in the past couple of years, although it will be some time before those

cases are disposed of.

This is not a budgetary matter. The Commissioner has made it clear that

where resources are needed to combat serious and organised crime, those

resources will be made available. The number of gangland murders was, in

fact, higher when Garda numbers were higher than they are now.

There is already very strong anti-gangland legislation in place. Minister

Shatter has made it clear to the Garda Commissioner that, if he feels there

are other measures which might be taken in this area, Minister Shatter will

look at that very positively.

Criminal terrorism

Despite the many positive developments that there have been over recent

years in Northern Ireland, the Gardaí have never relented in their efforts

to counteract criminal groups whose only objective is to drag our island

back to a dark past. The shared objective of the Government and the

authorities in Northern Ireland is to enhance community safety on the whole

of this island. The Minister has asked me to assure the House that we will

continue, in co-operation with the authorities in Northern Ireland, to

spare no effort to ensure that those criminal terrorists who seek to

subvert the democratic will of the people will face the full rigours of the

law.

Prison matters

The prison system also features in the Fianna Fáil motion. This is an area

in which Minister Shatter has adopted a very proactive approach since

becoming Minister for Justice and significant progress has already been

made within that relatively short period. As Senators will be aware, the

system faces many challenges, including pressure of numbers and the fact

that many of the prisons are very old. While these challenges are

significant, the Minister will continue to ensure that they are addressed

as effectively as possible.

The largest single allocation of the capital allocation to the Justice

Sector for 2012 was provided by Minister Shatter to fund the Prison Service

Building Programme. This significant capital investment underlines the

Government’s commitment to addressing the twin problems of overcrowding and

physical conditions within the prison estate. Refurbishment, including the

provision of in-cell sanitation, continues in Mountjoy Prison and approval

has been granted to the Prison Service to proceed with the project to

replace Cork Prison. The drafting of detailed plans for the replacement of

two outdated wings in Limerick Prison has also been approved.

A new Unit opened in December 2012 in the Dóchas Centre which provides an

additional 20 spaces. A new accommodation block at the Midlands Prison

became operational in late 2012 providing a potential 300 additional spaces

as well as additional work training and educational facilities.

The Minister has also actively pursued alternatives to custody. In that

context he has established a working group to conduct a strategic review of

penal policy. The group, which has a very wide remit, has been asked to

examine the role of penal policy in crime prevention, sentencing policies,

alternatives to custody, custodial accommodation and regimes, reintegration

and rehabilitation, and any special issues relating to female offenders and

prisoners.

Finally, the Minister is very much aware that the Prison Service has

actively engaged with the staff associations as part of the Public Service

Agreement 2010-2014. As part of a joint task review process, management and

staff representatives within the Prison Service are working effectively

together to implement the provisions of the Public Service Agreement. That

ongoing process is addressing every aspect of the operation of the prison

system and has resulted in the implementation of new daily task lists, new

staff rosters and new staff configurations in 7 establishments in 2012. In

addition another 4 prison development reports have been agreed and will be

implemented next month. Reports for the remaining 4 prisons are at an

advanced stage of completion.

Cooperation between management and staff within the Prison Service is at a

high level during this challenging period. This has been achieved through a

clear focus on communications facilitated through bilateral engagement with

the staff associations and the support of the Prisons Sector Group of the

Implementation Body. In addition, Senators may be aware that specific

measures relating to prison staff were incorporated in the proposals for

the revision of the Croke Park Public Service Agreement which have recently

been circulated by the Labour Relations Commission.

Defence issues

I will now deal with the element of the motion which is concerned with

Minister Shatter’s role as Minister for Defence. In that regard, his

primary objective in progressing the initiatives that have been taken has

been to focus on maintaining the operational capability of the Defence

Forces to fulfill all of the roles assigned by Government.

The consolidation of the barrack infrastructure has been a long term policy

in this respect. Moreover, the re-organisation of the Permanent Defence

Force has succeeded in freeing up personnel for operational duties and in

improving the overall effectiveness of the Force.

Reports and studies back to 1990 identified barrack closures as a

fundamental requirement towards improving military effectiveness and

efficiency. A total of fourteen barracks have been closed by successive

Governments over the past 14 years.

The total realised to-date in terms of sales of surplus property is

approximately €85m. This, together with income of €18m approx. from the

sale of other smaller military properties and married quarters has been

re-invested in a number of areas including:

· the provision of accommodation, training facilities

· the equipment modernisation programmes which involved major

acquisitions including, Light Tactical Armoured Vehicles, Mowag

Armoured Personnel Carriers, 8 helicopters and two new Offshore

Patrol vessels.

The Minister is committed to maintaining the capacity of the Defence Forces

and he is satisfied that the Defence Forces are currently fully capable of

meeting those tasks assigned to it.

 

 

Conclusion

To conclude - members of the Garda Síochána provide a vital service to the

public and they deserve the support of the public. A safe society is the

responsibility of every member of that society and not just the Gardaí.

The interconnection between Gardaí and community is a vital one in the

successful delivery of a policing service in Ireland. This Government will

not shirk in our responsibility to do everything we can to ensure that that

connection is not broken and that the best possible resources are made

available to An Garda Síochána.

Similarly, the Government will continue to pursue the development and

improvement of the prison system. That project has been a major priority

for Minister Shatter during his time as Minister for Justice and this will

continue to be the case.

In addition, Minister Shatter has worked very hard to ensure that the

Defence Forces will be fully capable of fulfilling their important tasks.

He is satisfied that this is the position and that it will be maintained.

As I have demonstrated very clearly, the Fianna Fáil motion is completely

without substance and, accordingly, I commend the amendment I have proposed

to this House.